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[edit]ISCKON should be corrected to ISKCON 203.221.17.46 (talk) 13:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed; thank you for pointing this out. Certes (talk) 13:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- lord krishna full name Lord sri vasudeva krishnavardhan in vedas bhagavat puran book 5 chapter 1 verse and Vishnu purana book 5 chapter 1 vedas like yajurveda tarttiya samitha 4.1.1 and rigveda 1.22.126 chapter and harivamasa purana chapter 1 book 5 24 Arth3008 (talk) 13:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Name change
[edit]This page's name should be changed to Krishna (in Hinduism), as a general overview page of Krishna, named Krishna-Vasudeva or historic Krishna is already there. Cuddlemebaby (talk) 19:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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I would like to add an illustration of baby Krishna and yashoda.Rajan Guptta (talk) 19:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC) Rajan Guptta (talk) 19:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload. Once the file has been properly uploaded, feel free to reactivate this request to have the new image used. PianoDan (talk) 21:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
per tradition: deity or Supreme God?
[edit]@DaxServer @Redtigerxyz could you refer any scripture or contemporary belief that Krishna is perceived as a deity rather than Supreme God? Sources like Bhagavad Gita, Bhagavada Purana etc. all refer Krishna as the Supreme God, thus I do not understand deity categorization —कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 15:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Traditions that concern Krishna emphasize nothing but Krishna to be Supreme God. That includes Bhagavad Gita, arguably the most well-known scripture of Hinduism, which declares Krishna as the Supreme God. For that, I believe Krishna should be emphasized as Supreme God of Vaishnavism. I couldn't trace any sign on Krishna being considered a deity on any scripture. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 15:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Krishna is not perceived as Supreme God in other sects like Shaivism and Shaktism and related Puranas. Also in Vaishnavism, Vishnu is generally the Supreme God; in Vaishnava sub-sects like Ramaism - Rama is Supreme; in these Krishna is an avatar of Vishnu. Redtigerxyz Talk 06:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Krishna worship practice is not observed in Shaivism or Shaktism. And in Vaishnavism regardless of subsects all Vishnu Krishna and Rama is believed to be Supreme God. Subsects differ by the status of manifestations, not on the Supreme God. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 10:11, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Apart from that, Krishna is a Mahabharata figure and His status is Supreme Self on Mahabharata. I have never encountered anything else in practice, but even if that was the case, His ontological status can never be observed as a deity or any other figure when narratives are considered as a whole. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 19:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Redtigerxyz @DaxServer Again, could you please refer any source that considers Krishna of Mahabharata as a deity? —Krsnaquli || Contact - 19:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's quite obvious that Krishna isn't considered the supreme God by non-Vaishnava traditions. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 12:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- "It is quite obvious that Allah isn't considered the Supreme God by non-Islamic traditions."
- I am aware of what you are pointing out. I am just asking for a reference that Krishna is considered as a non-Supreme deity by tradition(s). —Krsnaquli || Contact - 16:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I understand, but it's hard to prove a negative. The fact Shiva is considered supreme by Shaivites automatically implies that no other god/deva/deity (including Krishna) is. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 19:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think the case of Krishna is completely different than the case of Shiva. Krishna is a Mahabharata figure and is the Supreme Lord per Mahabharata. Unlike Shiva, Krishna doesn't appear in any scripture as having any role other than the Supreme Being. Thus, Krishna figure could only represent the concept of "Supreme Lord", and all I asked was scriptual evidence that would prove otherwise. Even if there is some unpopular opinion that considers Krishna as a non-Supreme deity, Such opinion wouldn't represent any scriptural and authentic tradition.
- Again, if Shaivism or any other religious tradition holds a position that considers Krishna as a non-Supreme deity, Please refer. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 19:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well, Krishna is subservient (to Radha) in the Radha Vallabha Sampradaya. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but Krishna's supremacy isn't mentioned in the early bhakti poetry. The Gita Govinda is far more concerned with his amorous adventures, where Radha and the gopis see him as their young friend and lover, not as God. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 09:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The fact that bhakti poetry doesn't focus on Krishna's supremacy or that Gita Govinda contains emphasis on Krishna's worldly role doesn't really refute the Krishna figure representing the Supreme Being, but Radha Vallabha Sampradaya indeed comes with a valid different perspective. If other editors also agree upon suggesting Krishna as a deity figure rather than Supreme Lord of Vaishnavism for Radha Vallabha tradition, I don't have much to say. But my idea still persists: that Krishna is a Mahabharata figure and he represents the Supreme Lord according to the Mahabharata and traditions that concern Him (except Radha Vallabha). —Krsnaquli || Contact - 19:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well, Krishna is subservient (to Radha) in the Radha Vallabha Sampradaya. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but Krishna's supremacy isn't mentioned in the early bhakti poetry. The Gita Govinda is far more concerned with his amorous adventures, where Radha and the gopis see him as their young friend and lover, not as God. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 09:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- I understand, but it's hard to prove a negative. The fact Shiva is considered supreme by Shaivites automatically implies that no other god/deva/deity (including Krishna) is. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 19:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's quite obvious that Krishna isn't considered the supreme God by non-Vaishnava traditions. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 12:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Redtigerxyz @DaxServer Again, could you please refer any source that considers Krishna of Mahabharata as a deity? —Krsnaquli || Contact - 19:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Apart from that, Krishna is a Mahabharata figure and His status is Supreme Self on Mahabharata. I have never encountered anything else in practice, but even if that was the case, His ontological status can never be observed as a deity or any other figure when narratives are considered as a whole. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 19:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Krishna worship practice is not observed in Shaivism or Shaktism. And in Vaishnavism regardless of subsects all Vishnu Krishna and Rama is believed to be Supreme God. Subsects differ by the status of manifestations, not on the Supreme God. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 10:11, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Krishna is not perceived as Supreme God in other sects like Shaivism and Shaktism and related Puranas. Also in Vaishnavism, Vishnu is generally the Supreme God; in Vaishnava sub-sects like Ramaism - Rama is Supreme; in these Krishna is an avatar of Vishnu. Redtigerxyz Talk 06:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Infobox Image
[edit]I recommend this painting ([1]) replacing the contemporary infobox image ([2]) per better representation. —Krsnaquli || Contact - 16:15, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- General Comment: the img which you suggested is copyrighted by Bhaktivedanta Trust, and as per source, should be use under "fair use" for any purpose. Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 16:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- The infobox image should be a non-sectarian depiction of Krishna. The image you suggested is very much in the International Society for Krishna Consciousness painting tradition and is not representative of the wide spectrum of Krishna worship/depiction. Chariotrider555 (talk) 17:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is a copyrighted image, which cannot be used. Redtigerxyz Talk 06:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Adding old image to Vishnu and Godd statue for Shiva.
- why so much difference my dear @Dāsānudāsa
- So many statue of Vishnu are found in world such as Angkor wat Vishnu temple, Cambodia, Garuda wisnu kencana, so many, add This
- if you didn't add atleast change shiva image add old photo to shiva, treat all are equal, you promote Shiva supremacy and wiki user's shows bad light to Lord Vishnu.
- only karma can teach you.
- If you have humanitarian change and treat all as equal.
- @Chariotrider555
- @Redtigerxyz
- @Seyamar Jaranthadss (talk) 12:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- why so much info on shiva when compare to vishnu info.
- Treat all are equals.
- @Chariotrider555
- @Redtigerxyz
- @Seyamar Jaranthadss (talk) 13:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Why do you want a picture of a statue so badly? I genuinely don't understand. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 13:07, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Why so much info added main info on shiva compared to vishnu Jaranthadss (talk) 13:35, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- wiki users promote good article and treat everything as equally, even i didnt enter wiki and edits article. Very waste of time, even you peoples didnt add, even didnt give permission to edits. What irony
- @Dāsānudāsa Jaranthadss (talk) 13:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Gibberish, as usual Dāsānudāsa (talk) 13:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- So much info on shiva top infobox, isnt Gibberish. Is that wikipedia or whatsapp media.
- I didnt understand it Jaranthadss (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Gibberish, as usual Dāsānudāsa (talk) 13:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Why so much info added main info on shiva compared to vishnu Jaranthadss (talk) 13:35, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Krishn
[edit]"krishn" which means dark , which also means attraction.
Krishn or krishna is the avatar of "Lord Vishnu"
Krishn - represents a figure in Hinduism, a personality of divine , love , growth, and spiritual.
As a spiritual and divine prince he plays the major role in Mahabharata, guiding humanity, teaching lessons of right or wrong.
According to Hindu mythology and traditions,krishn was born on a night called "Janmashtami",which falls on the eight day of dark half of the month of Bhadrapada(usually in August or September).
Krishn was born by Mata Devaki ( mother) and Vasudeva (father) but krishn upbringing and childhood were nurtured by Maiya Yashoda (mother) and Nanda(father, a cowherd chief of gokula)
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